I have access to the 'evidence' that was shown against me. Both Color and Topo went under aliases to record and just hid there, watching me because they didn't believe I could repeatedly pull off some fog-line headshot streaks. While topo is the one who holds the pride (or guilt) of the ban, Color was watching me for about 2 months, which I find quite disturbing and hurting.
First video uploaded 21 July, last video uploaded 28 July. 7 days != 2 months with 2 actual days I watched you.
Not only did Color not believe I could combine logic, photographic memory, legal z-block glitching, 'guestimation' and sound to find players beneath me, but he also believed I couldn't aim, shoot, hear, guess, click, strategize, or even just watch my screen properly to get kills.
Ahem, that was what you said.
[2013 Mon July 29 02:19:06] <Chappy|School> Like, I’ve just paused, fired and somehow killed someone when I’m not looking at them.
Pretty much telling me people are magically dying.
So he came on under an alias and tried to use ESP traps against me with someone else who's name I cannot confirm. I found his ESP traps because, to be as legitimate as possible, neither of them logged in to invisibly walk over somewhere. So they had to do it the hard way, which meant that at times, I saw a little green (or blue) head dash past a 2-high wall over to my left or right. I would shoot, and sometimes, I got him. One time, I missed, and the player successfully dug a hole and covered it up with matching blocks so I shouldn't have been able to find the player. I attempted to listen for digging (because I had heard a bit while walking over) to locate the pest, but to no success. After a while I walked off thinking "Must've been killed by someone else or something." But then, after scoping out a few more players attempting to build a tower, I heard a faint sound of a shovel hitting a block. So I went back over to where the player had disappeared (which was marked by a tree) and attempted to z-block glitch (look straight downwards) to find the player.
I found out that my speed while walking forwards and backwards was severely hindered when looking straight up or down, but moving left and right wasn’t. So I zig-zagged until I found the player. After spading the player, I found out the player’s name was “it’s a trap!!!” which I then kinda thought “Heh, trying to ESP trap me? Well I found you out legitimately, biatch. :P” “Yeah! Imma mother fucken detective!” And so on. After a short celebration I continued to play until I decided to log-off and get some fresh air and food, you know, because I’m human.
As for this:
[details=Click for details][2013 Mon July 29 01:47:06] why did you keep returint to that exact spot
[2013 Mon July 29 01:47:19] exactly over where a player was
[2013 Mon July 29 01:47:36] sort of like you were waiting for him to move
[2013 Mon July 29 01:48:21] <Chappy|School> I was walking around trying to find tunnel entrances.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:48:41] <Chappy|School> I didn’t see his death on the killfeed so I knew he was around somewhere.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:49:12] But how did you know who he was and that he was there
[2013 Mon July 29 01:49:27] <Chappy|School> Remember? I saw him walking along the back.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:49:36] back of the base?
[2013 Mon July 29 01:49:37] <Chappy|School> I shot at him and missed.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:49:46] <Chappy|School> Well, if you looked on the map.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:49:49] but yea you wouldn’t know his name
[2013 Mon July 29 01:50:18] so “killfeed” wouldn’t be possible
[2013 Mon July 29 01:52:43] <Chappy|School> I’m sorry, I don’t know what you mean. ![:frowning: :frowning:](https://community-cdn.aloha.pk/images/emoji/twitter/frowning.png?v=11)
[2013 Mon July 29 01:52:51] Which part?
[2013 Mon July 29 01:53:01] killfeed?
[2013 Mon July 29 01:53:12] <Chappy|School> Yea.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:53:28] Well you said you waited for his death on the killfeed
[2013 Mon July 29 01:53:28] <Chappy|School> That guy had came around the base before, so I was looking for his name.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:53:40] <Chappy|School> Yes, beause he had done it before.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:53:48] <Chappy|School> I was seeing if he was actually somewhere else.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:53:56] But he didn’t ![:frowning: :frowning:](https://community-cdn.aloha.pk/images/emoji/twitter/frowning.png?v=11)
[2013 Mon July 29 01:54:01] ill have tocheck again
[2013 Mon July 29 01:54:07] <Chappy|School> Before this recording!
[2013 Mon July 29 01:54:10] <Chappy|School> It was his playing style.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:54:21] he wasn’t in the game before the recording
[2013 Mon July 29 01:54:32] <Chappy|School> Like, a week earlier?
[2013 Mon July 29 01:54:39] <Chappy|School> He always dug around.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:54:41] wtf
[2013 Mon July 29 01:54:58] I’m pretty sure he picked that name like a few sec before he joined
[2013 Mon July 29 01:55:26] <Chappy|School> The guy, “It’s a trap!!!” was always attempting (when ever he was on) to dig a tunnel and grief the tower the other side was building.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:55:37] and I’ll be damn suprised if you remember his playstyle a week before
[2013 Mon July 29 01:55:51] <Chappy|School> Because I’d caught him doing it many times.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:56:04] <Chappy|School> At one point I just sat spamming my rifle down a tunnel.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:56:15] <Chappy|School> I thought it was fucking hilarious and my friend watched it with me.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:56:20] hmm what
[2013 Mon July 29 01:56:29] the tunnel on the left flank?
[2013 Mon July 29 01:56:36] <Chappy|School> No, before this recording.
[2013 Mon July 29 01:56:40] <Chappy|School> not even that day.[/details]
Well, I took that claim and checked if anyone had used that name and no one had and in which case you told me:
[2013 Mon July 29 02:10:47] <Chappy|School> Well it was a guy with a trappy sort of name.
[2013 Mon July 29 02:11:08] <Chappy|School> I don’t remember his name exactly, I know it had a trap in it. I guess I related it to that guy. ![:stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:](https://community-cdn.aloha.pk/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=11)
You see, color had been watching me for almost the whole time I was playing on the holes map, attempting to get evidence because he didn't believe I was skilled and had improved. I'm guessing he asked Topo to back him up and record his version (Maybe for some extra evidence, better video quality, he was too scared, I don't know). All I know is that Topo was aliased as 'towers' and he was also logged in, because I checked with one of my commands. I was logged in so I didn't get votekicked. Topo PM'd Color -- Knowing that it was him -- agreeing that some of my kills were 'weird', but they weren't enough to check him, at least not up until now.
I had joined the second I started that video and topo was already on the server. You probably don’t know this but it was not me that had the first suspicion unless you can’t a couple of months ago when you got kicked by the no-spread detector twice. There’s a couple of people that suspected you around the same time but no one had enough proof. A couple days before my first video, I had saw in my logs suspicious stats along with some people that were suspicious of you. There’s a difference between being scared and wanting to get the maximum evidence so the person can’t refute it like you are attempting to do now. Only thing that can be said is “lag” or “skill” or a small variable that affects it. Furthermore, it was not only these occasions that you had been suspected of hacking. It’s just kept hidden for further investigation as I have done.
The thing I don’t get is that your story is constantly changing as you can see from how you explained the ESP trap. There was a part in my video (21min) that you attempted to try explain why you threw a nade at someone in a tunnel that was not even close to your POV. You said that someone in teamchat had said that there is someone under you. A staff member checked that claim and it was proven that no one had said anything of that sort. The thing with not being able to keep a story consistent is a sign of guilt. Watch some CSI or Burn Notice to learn more about it.
What's even more distressing is that Color played it out like he hadn't been there for almost half an hour, like he had no idea what had been going on undercover for the past fucking month.
When you’re doing a secret investigation, you don’t want anyone to know about it until you have proven your case which is exactly I acted like that. Again, 7 days != 1 month. I hadn’t told anyone about what I was doing except a few top people knew about it. It was meant to investigate you and see what others are claiming of you. When I first joined, I was very surprised. I had almost made my decision on you cheating right when I started to play against you. As you probably remember in the first video, you died with a nade kill after I stopped recording. The reason you died is because it was intentional to use the hill as cover and you tried killing me even though there was no way of you knowing I was coming. I threw a nade and it injured you. Exactly as planned except I had cooked the nade right and you started running back even before I threw the nade which caused me to throw extra nades and at which you said something like “You did that on purpose to hit the tree”
Topo also accused me of using No Spread on a rifle
I would be as certain as to bet money that after 11:52, you started using no-spread. As it’s not fully provable, you can use logic and see that you barely missed any shot as 0.75 spread is designed to be completly random which causes you not to be able to be fully accurate.
Would barely make a difference because the rifle is so accurate (It's not 100 like in .70, but it's not as bad as an SMG)
If the rifle is so accurate, why at some points in your POV video that you could barely hit the player even though he was right beside you. Well, that is the cause of spread being random, you can't control it and you can't guesstimate it.
Wouldn't make much of an 'improvement' because I still had recoil.
Little do you know but it does. It makes all your fog shots accurate, if you crouch, you pretty much get little recoil which an average player can control.
Is impossible to tell because you can never know if someone has no spread, unless it's blatant with a shotgun.
Oh impossible? I would bet to say that it is possible to see if you inject something in the client.exe. Not at this moment but prior to the incident. You can also use logic as I already mentioned. You can compare your POV to my video and clearly see that the skill level has completely dropped since my video. “Nervous” is not a valid excuse for not being good. It even took you a couple of tries to get that 29 ratio. (Yes I checked the logs) You were getting between 1-3 ratio your first couple of tries. 16 kills 6 deaths if I recall correctly for one of your attempts to get a good streak on video from your POV.
Point 4 is a repetition of the others.
I attempted to debate my innocence time and time again, with no explanation for what some people saw as 'snaps'. All I saw of them was a combination of quick movements, Australian lag and topovl's imperfection. Remember Shado? How both Drebbel and I thought he was tapping E, but it was just a high sensitivity? My sensitivity in-game is 25% higher than normal, and my mouse sensitivity outside of AoS is about 12% higher. Topo and Color thought I was tapping 'E' and then firing, but Monstarules agrees, in both Topo and Color's evidence, there are a few frames where you can see me moving my mouse.
Debate your innocence was a long way of saying “lag”, “skill” and crazy luck". I really will not accept Monstarules’s opinion. The reason behind it is because you exactly told him what to say to me. I really don’t like when you put people up to defend your case but I really hate when you tell others what to say.
Evidence:
[2013 Wed August 14 23:01:51] but I banned topo, you, pabh, ediee, HeatNG and Deichkind.
[2013 Wed August 14 23:02:01] You never banned me lol
[2013 Wed August 14 23:02:08] Hm…according to chappy I did
You legit told him that he banned me. Like honestly, that just sounds like a whole load of bullshit. If you’re really going to get others to fight your case to me, at least tell them the truth and not tell them that they did somethign that they didn’t do. That’s just wrong and was a waste of my time. Monstarules used the exact excuses as you as well as compared it to Kodiak’s ban which really has nothing at all to do with this. It was clearly evident that you had been telling him stuff to tell me. By the way, for the poll I voted option 2 that you didn’t hide your aimbot well. Just as you didn’t hide that you have clearly influenced others such as MonstaRules and Kangaroo through private chat. As well as many others at which I told you to stop and told you to do it publicly instead of telling every individual about it.
After the ban and the evidence shown (and Color coming out of the shadows to reveal his evidence), most agreed that I was a hacker and deserved to stay banned (and in some cases, rot in hell). A few admins who had seen the evidence, but didn't agree it was enough, stuck to my side. One of them was SnIpEr, who suggested me to try a 'PABH' and record myself playing and pulling off the streaks I did in T&C's videos. I couldn't find a server which met all these little 'rules', though:
Had me at a ping below 250, with no more rubber banding than I would have had to put up with on an aloha server.
Was free of hackers. All the servers I tried to play on had some bastard holding their E key down for the whole time they were playing.
Had a map that was flat, similar to a babel-type gamemode.
Included the ability to crouch-camp and pull off headshots from the opposition's spawn.
Had a good game mode to attempt to recreate the original scenario.
I already agreed that if you can pull even close to the same way that I saw you while ingame that I would straight out unban you. You couldn’t even do remotely close to the other oocasions in which case I didn’t unban you and you even increased my belief of you hacking.
I will show you the points of view below. But I want you to firstly, watch 8x's topovl version. Decide whether I'm hacking or not and whether you would ban me. Then have a look at mine to see what's missing in 8x's. For even further comparison, 8x has merged the two together for you. It does take some time to get used to the different resolutions and aspect ratios, but when your brain adjusts, you'll be able to see how much of a difference the two have.
Yea...I would've had a more likely chance of kicking ei8htx for afk rather than banning you. Please point out differences that would cause others to think that you were hacking bcause I clearly saw none that I would even suspect to be hacking. All I saw was a tryhard crouch spammer that has trouble hitting players like in previous videos.
Because I wasn't hacking, and I never will. I've never known the reason to hack, because you don't get anything out of it. If I did hack, I would feel guilty as hell and I know about the punishments that apply being caught hacking, since I have issued many before this one. Like Kangaroo said in his little rant, it would be stupid for me to hack because I am (well, was) a well-known player in the community, as well as a friendly player and best of all; I had no enemies. It was easy sailing everyday, doing my work, helping out others. Volunteering and helping out. The reason I stuck to AoS 0.75 was because of you guys. You were the people who made AoS so special and you always will. The dedication you all put in was the reason I submitted my guard app: Because I wanted to be like you.
Trust me, I blame myself much more than I blame you for hacking. You are a well-known player but we, as admins got you introduced to stuff that access to be able to use cheats. You can ask others about it but I have said it many times that I blame myself/staff for this. It was wrong and still is wrong to introduce people to using cheats to catch hackers as it enables you to many strong curious thoughts of using said cheat. The reason I want to clear this up is to improve us as a staff and see where the problem started and see how to prevent it from happening in the future.
*Story to make us feel bad*
Not going to explain this since well, your stories don't make me change my mind.
As Craft said, I did make a post on your applications starting from the least suspicious to the most suspicious evidence. Least being server detections and most being the videos.
Let’s start on this since we both are making lengthy posts, I’ll explain this even more than how I explained it in the private forum.
Someone caught you with suspicious stats, 21 kills, 3 deaths and 90% accuracy on arena. Pretty weird right?
Next, you reported that you had been kicked by the no-spread detector but you forgot to mention that you got kicked twice by it and not only once. You explained it to me like this:
The map was nuketown and the distance had to be 23+ blocks for it to even be considered no spread. He would have to hit a body part (Headshot, Body, Limb) with all 8 pellets for it to add +1 to the nospread counter. Once it reaches 3 it kicks the player. It’s fairly accurate but that only adds suspicion to him and doesn’t exactly say that he was hacking. Also I think it was topo who told me he got kicked twice with seperate IPs(dynamic IP) on two different occasions.
Next thing that was in my post was your autoban from Icecraft for Aimbot or as it’s meant to be, SMG-Snap. Honestly, I didn’t know much about it so I asked a girl who made the script and even tested it myself on a private server against bots to see if I can triggers it with even the most obvious aimbot.
Well to trigger it, you have to move from your previous target to your next target with a distance of 10 degrees away and hit the same body part within .155 seconds. It’s mostly used to catch obvious smg cheaters. And do it 7 times.
This is my attempt to try to trigger it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sWsgXmdvTvA
If you watch even a bit of the video, you’ll know that it is damn hard to trigger.
You blamed lag for that incident(Surprise).
Anyway, this is what I think of your appeal/ban. Honestly, I’m really disappointed that you decided to hack and decided to keep on denying it. Although I blame myself, you make me blame you for deciding not to come clean and sending people to try to convince me which really doesn’t make your case good.