Alph

You know nothing about me and don’t presume to. Sure I may not have bothered becoming an admin just to fuck others over but I have done shit for this community in the past. Nothing about Aloha shows anything but shadiness and bullshit high regard for yourselves. Get a reality check. There’s almost nothing left of this community and you’re driving the rest away. We should be accommodating players not fucking them over. Enjoy your little enterprise now. This won’t last forever and your time is drawing near. I was messing around at first but now you’re treating me like shit for defending my friend.

Yes but topo wasnt using that tool at that moment, he was playing on the other team, if it was another admin that used that tool shouldnt he be answering the appeal?

Well thanks for that, because only them were called out when they vouch for me.

Ok i will take your word for now, unless either you or anyone else find proof against that of course.

Ferrari, Nathan, Fallen, Irongears, probably more but i really dont want to forget anyone, i think they saw me a lot of time. A special mention to Danke, im very sure he had checked me a lot because he said after my first ban that he will follow me every single second i log so probably he even was on babel that day. But it can be any other you dont need me to name it.

I already talked about my appeal on the first message, now im only answer questions or arguments, if you want me to lie and admit hacking then read this.

“But, if you’re innocent, maintain your innocence and don’t cave in.”

Yes i appealed two times, so? did you ask those 2 admins what happened?
That video is from my second Ban, not this one, but i still remember it, it was against waterstar and it was like the third time water stop us at that spot so i sprayed over there after seeing my teammate in front of me getting killed, wouldnt an aimbot do it in one or two bullets and without the bullets getting to dispersed? also if those blue squares are enemy-mates (is that the term) wouldnt the weapon automatically point to them too?
Nathan said after seeing the video something like that if i remember well and you can ask waterstar too, another well known member of aloha.

i for one am on board with the notion that we've given you enough chances already.
What chance are you talking about? a chance would be if i was guilty and asked to play again, i was banned only for starting a votekick against topo, this is like if you tell a cop that he was stealing and he put you in jail just for that.

People judge you based on how you act. Learn that fact buddy because that applies to real life too. The best thing you’ve contributed to this community thus far is that public apology you made in regards to you requesting how to exploit the game.

Spare me your soap opera/conspiracy theories. The game died the day Ben sold the game to Jagex, you’re years behind if you think the game is dying. We banned someone because the admin had credible reason to do so and you’re butthurt because you think your friend is innocent? Feel free to defend yourself or your friends, but don’t start spewing random crap out of your ass about the entire staff being corrupt. We have no reason to ban random people, do you think we get paid per ban or something? What exactly is our motivation to ban random people from our servers when barely two of them are filled? Do you think the money sunk into the servers is just some expensive show to get people banned?

Get your facts straight and then we can start talking. Now back to the conversation that matters.

How would you know if he was using it? It literally takes a few seconds to use it.

As far as I know, none of the said admins/guards has come forth and defended your innocence based on their observations of your play. Feel free to contact them if you want know what their opinions are.

Fair enough, do whatever you think is right.

Aimbot != ESP. You can keep no recoil or no spread off in order to make the shots appear legitimate and more random as opposed to a constant one tap of the smg, while still utilizing aimbot. According to Danke, he unbanned only because you asked him and he unbanned you, not because he thought you were innocent (correct me if my memory servers me wrong Danke).

False, you were banned for cheating. Topo gets votekicked almost everytime he plays and if that were the case, we would have a lot more bans than you think. The worst that will happen to you is a cancel of your votekick or you will be togglevotekicked if you troll around with the reasoning.

Nathan will correct me if i’m wrong, but as i understand he unbanned you even though he was still suspicious about your activity recorded in that video. and as i already said, there are are some others who are still suspicious as well. but your ban was reversed anyway. just because we exercise leniency doesn’t necessarily mean that we think someone on the receiving end is innocent.

aloha.pk became involved with AoS a few days after its release. if we were the problem, why have we been and continue to be the game’s largest and oldest supporting community more than five years later? yes, accommodating players is important, but catering to those who are just “messing around” wouldn’t be considerate of the overall playerbase.

Instead of asking that why dont you just say if he was using it or not? instead of just saying that he wasnt using it you keep evading the question

Not ESP either, i knew an enemy was there because they were camping that spot the last 2 rounds and because my teammate was killed in front of me as you can see in the video. I dont remember very well the reasont Danke told me to unban me (it was on the chat) but i remember he told me he would check on me 24/7 to be sure, wouldnt you think he would have banned me for real after all that time if he found something?

Thats because if he banned all the people that votekicked him it would be suspicious, but that doesnt mean that all his bans are legitimate, probably around 80 or 90% are without any good reason just like this.

Alph,

After I shared your ban clip and discuss with other admins and we all conclude that it is not enough evidence to issue a ban. I will unban you immediately and i apologized for the inconvenience that may have cause.

Enjoy the fun.

Nathan

That is what he wrote on that post. I though that means that they saw it wasnt hack but maybe i am wrong, i hope Nathan can confirm it.
Too bad (or too convenient for him) that topo doesnt make videos like this, that would have been useful.

i was, but now you’re going to ask for proof which nobody can give you. why bother?

you’re being ridiculous.

you know that this wasn’t done at random and that there was a very good reason for it. i’ve already told you that this appeal is denied; you are wasting your time by posting here. wait the next 3 weeks out and then start over. maybe during those 3 weeks you should think about how much easier it would have been to a) not cheat in the first place and b) come clean about it after you were caught and banned for the third time rather than try to cast doubt on my abilities and reliability as a staff member.

i play with people who are much more annoying than you any way you want to look at it and i don’t ban them. i play with much better players than you and they’re all fine and still playing. why would i single you out? because you cheated. i find it interesting that you haven’t even mentioned the possibility that i mistook what i saw for cheats - instead you jumped straight to attacking my character.

you have no idea how much time and effort i have put into this game, or even what i am like as a person. if you did, maybe you’d realise that the thought of me turning around and banning somebody because i [didn’t want to lose/was being votekicked and that for some reason made me mad even though it happens every single game/don’t like them] is an absolute joke.

Because you were on the other team all the time, then that means that you were using a program to follow other players while playing and killing them, and that explains how you knew where all my teammates and me where all the time and how you were killing us, you were basically using ESP. If you were on spectator mode that would be ok, but you wasnt.

check the third post i put

I already give you the reasons, you even put them yourself even if you denied them, thats exactly what i believe it happened, specially since the ban was just in the moment where i was digging the tower and after i made that votekick. You "didnt record a video" nor have any proof but you are unwillingly to admit that maybe you are wrong this time, you even say you are fine admitting when you are mistaken, then that could mean that you are doing this on purpose then even if you know i didnt hack. Again, i will not lie even if it means i will not play again, but even so i would prefer if a good admin takes care of this appeal.
I though there was a chance you might have believed i was hacking, but the way you and your friends answer here and in the live chat makes me think that is not the case anymore.

my bad, i didn’t remember that post.

Because you were on the other team all the time, then that means that you were using a program to follow other players while playing and killing them, and that explains how you knew where all my teammates and me where all the time and how you were killing us, you were basically using ESP. If you were on spectator mode that would be ok, but you wasnt.
actually, i play on openspades. i connect with a second (voxlap) client to check for cheats. server and irc logs will show this, as well as me disconnecting with the second client after i make my bans.

as much as you might not want to believe it, i play legit. as much as you try to claim otherwise, i admin legit. of course sometimes i lose my patience with people, but i make an effort not to let that influence my decisions - especially when it comes to how i’m acting as a staff member. about as far as i let it go is responding like i did in my first reply to this thread. if i were actually the person you’re trying so hard to convince (who?) that i am and it were solely my decision, you wouldn’t have a chance at another appeal.

i’m done replying to you until your next appeal.

And as much as you might not want to believe it, i play legit too, sometimes i even play very good.
No need to wait for the next appeal, i already said everything in this one and i will not lie just to keep playing.