Hello Alohians,
Feel free to put your input on this matter below, but ONLY after you've read the ENTIRE thing and don't just read it to respond or in a reactionary posture, but please read it to comprehend and empathetically.
Also please keep in mind that a lot of this I wasn't disclosing for obvious reasons, but I am disclosing it now due to hypocrisies and issues not being dealt with properly. They didn't treat me with even the most basic of respect, so I'm not going to hold back any info just to be polite.
As you know I as well as others have been targeted by a select few admins recently both provoked and unprovoked.
Normally this isn't a problem as times move on and justice is served. Admins that stepped out of line are usually reprimanded and apologize.
However recently, this hasn't been the case.
First let's take a look at Ace da King. He was bullied, peer pressured, and instigated until he wanted to get it out by hacking.
Is what he did wrong? Yes.
Is how everyone reacted to him justified? No.
We were all kids once and we have ALL made mistakes.
I'm not even here arguing that he should be given another chance, but it's the judgmental mentality that snowballed up against him that isolated him from the community except for the select few that were willing to truly forgive him.
If you guys would've treated him with a little bit of respect he might still be here and actually might've turned into a great part of the community. He even tried to contribute a few times with things like HTML code or IRC Bots.
Sure you can dismiss them as whatever, but that's a lot for his age.
Keep this judgmental mentality problem in mind for the rest of this post.
Now, let's talk about Power. Anyone that has ever been in a position of power knows it feels different. There's a feeling of invincibility that comes upon you every time you use the power whether for bad or for good. You start to think you're immune to mutes when you're always muting others and have access to the /mute command to unmute yourself even if another admin mutes you. If another admin sees you're going out of line and mutes you, you will simply get upset and rage because your imaginary invincibility bubble has been broken into and your pride has been attacked.
Position. Positions can be good, but positions can be bad. The higher you are, the harder it is to fall, but the harder the fall is when you do. When we take someone like Danke, he is so respected by so many admins that his word is taken as "his word". If he says someone was aimbotting, then someone was aimbotting. But why is this okay? Guards have to scramble through 30 minutes of footage just to gather enough proof for a ban on someone. Why is it that we are allowing a few admins to become dictators? Just because they might not have been proven to have done wrong in the past? The problem with this logic is that we are ALL humans and ALL make mistakes. You are only making it worse by sugarcoating any mistake these few abusing admins are making until it gets so out of hand and so out of control that they are actually ruining parts of the community. When I was talking to someone about my most recent ban that has NO PROOF, this was the response I got from someone in reference to this "Position" topic.
It's like a first-rate CIA agent that kills someone because he thought he was a terrorist even though he didn't have proof. People will congratulate him and agree with him just because "its a good agent that makes no mistakes".
Now onto bullying. I know me and Asame joke about this sometimes, but it really is a problem in this community. People come on here with their hurts and take it out on others and think it's okay because they have a shield of anonymity. You need to realize though, that when you tell someone to "kys" 20 times or call someone a "scrub" 30 times in a row, it will start to affect the person. Tai does this quite often and doesn't mean it jokingly. He does this to basically everyone on the servers. I recommend you tone this down or make sure the person you're saying these things to understands it's a joke. I don't care if LowObservable says #noobalert when I join, because I know he's joking. I don't care if Shywolf says "hax" everytime I kill him, because I know he's joking. If the person doesn't seem to be laughing then STOP. I don't care if it makes you feel good to bring down other people, you need to stop whether it's a rule here or not. It's for your own good if you want to have any sort of meaningful long-lasting relationships in real life.
My first ban? Well, as has been discussed many times over. I was banned for using ESP on a Babel server. There was only 1 minute and 30 seconds worth of evidence presented by Monstarules. There was no attempt at an ESP trap. There was no long drawn out observation. No effort. The ban was done out of salt and I know it was done out of salt since there was no apology for the wrongful ban. Out of my own honesty, I admitted to abusing a glitch before the ban. I had no babel due to a glitch in the game and not from my own willingness. Then the conversation was immaturely shifted to that and a bunch of "you should've known betters" when there wasn't even any video evidence of me abusing this glitch. By the time the clip was recorded I had already stopped abusing the glitch because I do have a conscience. At first I thought it was just humorous that there was no babel. Then a few minutes later when people had actually built a tower and climbed up, I realized "wow, I can actually see the people there even though I shouldn't be able to". Then I figured, "heh, why not just shoot at them. I sincerely doubt that the server would register the hits because there's a floor in the way". Then I saw the death messages, but no one said anything at first, so I figured it was just a clientside glitch telling me that people were getting killed when they actually weren't. Once someone on the server I had killed said something about it in chat I realized it was actually killing people and stopped immediately. Then a votekick was started and then Monsta started spectating me. He saw me snap to a few people because I'm a boss and recorded a minute and a half. I glanced up to the babel once where there was someone, but at this point like I already said… I have a conscience and I wasn't going to just abuse a glitch unfairly like that once I was aware. Then I was told "torch be honest" a few times and then was banned.
The ban appeal went as expected and can be found here: http://aloha.pk/index.php?topic=8178.0
Basically I was unbanned because they didn't have video proof really of anything worth banning for and superior logic contributed by various members of the community including a quote someone posted from Izzy stating that bans for glitches are harsh or something. (paraphrased)
Was I given an apology for the fact that I was banned out of salt because I was rekking the admin who banned me? No, but I understand that Monsta has a lot of pride and I wasn't expecting it. A later day I joke around with Lone_Wolf in game about it as well as others and someone messages me saying Monsta might be getting upset about it or something because he wanted to be admin. So I nicely send Monsta a message saying I'll tone it down and what not and he doesn't respond. Once again pointing to salt and pride. I could be wrong, but it is extremely likely considering that Monsta has been very abrasive since then to me even though I'M the one who was wrongfully banned, but that's just how this backwards system here on Aloha seems to work.
So I'm unbanned right? No worries right? Wrong. For some reason, like a week later Froelich messages me this. (once again as with other info here, he didn't give me the basic respect of a response, so I'm not going to withhold information.)
Hello Torch,Your trusted status for aloha has been removed. You can try to regain it by re-applying at anytime. The reasons for this are a culmination of glitching, crude behavior, and an inability to help out with fixing the glitch when presented. Carrying trusted in game means glitch abusing is even more dangerous since you cannot be votekicked, and we simply cannot trust that you won't glitch again at this moment.
Froe
Crude behavior? Really? You have SYS Admins who blow up on people on the forums over the pettiest things and are control freaks and you're worried about "crude behavior"? Yes, I'm talking about you Scipio. The one who can't control his tongue and tells people to stop posting just because he disagrees with them.
Inability to help out with fixing the glitch when presented? Are you serious? I made it my mission to recreate the glitch and solve it so I could help out the community. I made a post asking what admins knew how to code so I could PM one of them and once I found out that Muffin (someone who isn't going to treat me like a dog) did know how to code, I PM'd him the info. This is what I said:
Alright, well the glitch can be recreated pretty simply. I did not test on OS, but on AOS all you have to do is join the Babel server but do not pick any teams. Just stay there at the team selection menu until the map is over. Once the match is over and it switches to a new map then you join any team you want. You'll hear a loud breaking sound as the Babel falls if your spawn is anywhere near the middle.For ideas on how to patch this without knowing the coding reason for the error:
Kicking people that haven't specified a team before a map change (Might be annoying, but would fix the problem)
Forcing spectator as soon as someone joins without asking them which team to pick.
Disable joining temporarily once one team reaches a score of 9. (Most annoying and least useful/last resort)
If you can find out the source of the coding error you might be able to figure out some weird code fix that overrides some other selection of code or do some weird variable update loop to try to glitch it out in a good way. This one seems pretty unlikely, but if you're good enough then go right ahead and try it lol.
That is EXTREMELY helpful and nowhere shows my "inability to help". So is Froe salty as well or is he just willfully and ignorantly going around removing people's trusted powers? Sure, he does make the claim that I was glitching, but I did not ABUSE that glitch. I was not logging into trusted or ever abusing trusted. I never abused the glitch for the rest of the time up till the week later when it was "SO" important for the "SAFETY" of the server that my trusted status be removed.
But you know… whatever right? Just deal with no trusted because of a few admins' ignorance right? Well, that was fine with me until today when I was banned again.
Let's start from the beginning of this story shall we?
I join a rather empty Babel server and see it's still the dumb old map that was up like 30 minutes before or whenever it was I previously joined. I didn't feel like playing on it for real, so I started capping to get the map over with. ObedX_x joins and helps me out. We're getting somewhere until some guy named Cougar or something joins and starts SMG'ing the tower down. Why would you do that on a practically empty server with a dumb map, I don't know, but he was enjoying himself. I checked his ping and realized it was low and probably someone in America. After a bit of building and getting the tower shot down, I say "this map is cancerous". Obed and I believe someone else says something about something else being cancerous and then an Admin abuses the server speech system and says via console "torch is cancerous". Admins don't believe me? Go check the logs. I don't know who said this (I'm assuming it was Danke) and it doesn't look like how Shywolf would type it, so it can only be assumed it was meant to instigate. So some more time passes by and this person is getting annoying with their tower destroying skills, so I stop every now and then and try to go to kill them instead of building. One of these times happened because I was shot while building on the tower from a hill on my right side. I respawn and went to check out the area that I just got shot from since I didn't see that the person "Cougar or whatever his name was" got killed in the killfeed. I see a weird two-high brownspot and walk over to it and see a crack with a red head behind it. I shoot and kill the "Cougar guy" and walk directly from there towards the tower to start building again. Then I hear a typical whiny response of "how did you kill me?". I said "hacks" jokingly as I always do to all the crybabies on Aloha and they ask something similar and proceed to explain just how "impossible" it was for them to get shot. I respond for like the third time "hacks" since I'm used to these whiners. Then I see "p.s. <----- danke" in chat and then I was banned. Salt, salt, salt, all around. I then come on here to make a ban appeal and Danke the supposed "first rate admin" has absolutely no proof to show for himself. Everything I say is dismissed in pointless rhetoric and troll responses. It's one thing for a player to give these types of responses, but why is this being allowed of an ADMIN. Someone who is supposed to be a leader in the community and make peace? Why are you letting people who act like they haven't even entered puberty go around banning people with no proof? I ask to be unbanned so I can show him the exact spot I shot him from and he doesn't let me and instead just recreates the scene "himself" and asks in a ridiculing way with a screenshot if that's how I shot him. I say yes, because surprisingly he was right and he says some sarcastic response and checks out, leaving me banned with no proof. Thread can be read here: http://aloha.pk/index.php?topic=8330.0 What's the best part about this? If Danke was the person to abuse the console chat and say "torches are cancer" he after banning me tried to reprimand poor ObedX_x by saying something similar to: "togglekill isn't to be abused like you're babysitting" just because Obed has toggled kill on a few people. The king of hypocrisy!
So sure after reading all this, you might still love me, you might still hate me. I don't really care to be honest. What I am however asking for for the GOOD of the COMMUNITY and not a few people's egos is the following. I be unbanned and trusted restored and treated like every other player here without prejudice, since I have done nothing worthy of prejudice. Danke to be demoted and reprimanded for his abusive behavior and reactionary type administering and bans. Monstarules reprimanded for his reactionary banning as well and if he screws up one more time he be demoted as well. Demotions aren't necessary if they are willing to apologize to the community and turn their wrongs to right. And as a step of good faith, I apologize to those I shot on the babel that day I had no babel and was curious. That was unfair and I stopped then and will never do it again.
"wah wah wah torch, go kys blah blah balh this thread got me rollin you really think Danke the perfect and Monsta the innocent should get in trouble?!? HILARIOUS HAHAHA"
To anyone that thinks this way, just realize. If justice is not served this time, it won't be served next time. When it's not served next time it will be YOU getting banned irrationally or out of salt and with no evidence. If things continue this way, this community will die sooner than expected from injustice unremorsed and power trips.
#torchlivesmatter
P.s. Anytime I get banned, the community comes alive again. Just look at all the traffic I bring in the attached image!