i’ve noticed a lot of people complaining about maps lately. some, like crossfire3, seem to kill the server every time they’re played. i’m going to look at changing up the rotation a little bit and i’d like to start with removing the maps people seem to hate. i’ll be asking about this ingame as well and seeing what the most common and strongest opinions are and going from there
once people are generally happy with all the maps in the rotation i think it’ll be good to try adding some new maps (http://aloha.pk/index.php?topic=9358.0 is a good place to make suggestions for that, for now. i’ll be following while i do this)
please try not to argue with one another, it won’t help get anything done quickly. just looking for opinions on which maps should be removed from as many different people as possible and if the thread turns into arguments it’ll be needlessly hard to sift through
my own suggestions are turv, pinline, de_dust2x2, babelstairs, crossfire3. i feel less strongly about plateau and ruins_onigiri but still don’t enjoy playing them very much.
maps I don’t exactly care for (not in any particular order):
frog1.1
driftice(too much white for my taste)
crossfire3
waterfrontv2babel
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Pinline isn’t a bad map but people probably don’t like it because they have to change their strategy to win. But Israelleelll brought up the idea of increasing the spawn platform and adding multiple lines down the middle http://aloha.pk/index.php?topic=7980.msg81158#msg81158
Maps I like
tradeoff
babelstairs
dedust2x2
vippers_nes
holes
crossfire2
ellipsis
1river2forts
Out of all these maps the only one I really don’t like is crossfire3. I’ve never had one fun game on that map. The rest of them I’ve learned to love over the years.
The only weakness with babelstairs, pinline, and pincushion is how terribly griefy they are for babel. Some games on those maps I feel like i have to hold everybody’s hand just to end the maps destruction.
Maps I enjoy to play :
Tradeoff (imo would be good to see it more often btw)
TowerDive
islandbabel
driftice
icecraft
waterfront
greenravine
minihills
catseyebabel
babelstairs (even if it is subject to alot of grief tho)
also Pinline would be good if israel’s suggestion was adopted, because it provides the exact thing we’re looking for : change & renewal ; in a nutshell fresh maps because ppl are bored playing the same maps for months, we basically just need novelty
Making maps requires people and the patience to make them, it’s not that simple to make one. Especially a nice one. Anywho, since I originally suggested reform…
These are the maps I personally don’t like
Crossfire2
greenravine
Crossfire3
Frog
dedust2x2
icecraft
turv
These are maps that can kill the game if teams are stacked (they’re still fun though)
Towerdive
pinline
catseyebabel
minihills
As a side note, babelstairs is the most common culprit for griefing, as all you have to do is just knock down a few sets of stairs, and put a few campers in the remaining pillars, and then you can no longer easily take out any tower. Tradeoff is a great map to level the enemies side. However there are people who like to grief their own side…so…yeah. Fun map though, I love it.
Some comments on current maps:
Pincushion is great if there is someone to /tb griefers… And tent location can be really awful.
Moon is nice but it is really hard to spot blues because of the black sky (which is a good idea, since black towers are practically invisible)
Tradeoff = my favorite :-*
Yukon, please remove
“New map”:
Did we ever play in Joe Biden’s compound? It probably sucks. Hoover looks great! Hamburg (I recall playing this map, it was on babel I think)
And as dd said: termina & metropolis
As for maps I would like to see:
Yubacore
UFO
Ambush
BigAssSideForts
Faceoff
Harbor
Remus
UFO was definitely a crazy and cool map, but even though I liked it, a lot of people didn’t. Yubacore was amazing, and deserves to be back. Ambush could be rotated 90 degrees and it would be a very very interesting map to play on. BigAssSideForts would be a cool one, Faceoff would need to be lowered by about 40 blocks or so but then it would definitely be great for babel.