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Title: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 15, 2017, 02:08:11 PM HST
hello everyone
we have big problem on aloha, this is people who think it is ok to curse all the time
there are many children who play on aloha, also many religious. it is not ok to swear, this people do not like it
i suggest a new script were any offensive words automute you, such as "fuck", "shit", "nigger", "spic", "ass", many more
guys please this is big problem many players think it is cool to curse but it is not cool it is mean and unfriendly
thanks for reading guys hopefully we can make aloha a better place
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: GraveBear on August 15, 2017, 06:29:08 PM HST
Little kids hear cuss words all the time

They gotta man up and stop bein a bitch
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Orkmat on August 15, 2017, 06:37:51 PM HST
This is fucking bullshit, i don't care for those giant useless cloat suckers spazz monkeys cousin fuckers, they are all a failed abortion whose birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory. Fucking dumbasses ruining the gamestreaks with votekicks just cause "words hurts".
Wow, fuck 'em, if they don't like, just don't read the godamn chat, profit.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 16, 2017, 10:48:47 AM HST
This is fucking bullshit, i don't care for those giant useless cloat suckers spazz monkeys cousin fuckers, they are all a failed abortion whose birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory. Fucking dumbasses ruining the gamestreaks with votekicks just cause "words hurts".
Wow, fuck 'em, if they don't like, just don't read the godamn chat, profit.

what the frick man this is unacceptable the words you have used in this
i have censored them because i am not comfortable to even quote such word
please rethink again what you are doing, it is probably there are childrean that have read your mean comment
maybe aloha will ban you for this behaviour, be careful please and dont curse again because that will make me sad
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: QuickBrownFox on August 16, 2017, 12:08:35 PM HST
This is fucking bullshit, i don't care for those giant useless cloat suckers spazz monkeys cousin fuckers, they are all a failed abortion whose birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory. Fucking dumbasses ruining the gamestreaks with votekicks just cause "words hurts".
Wow, fuck 'em, if they don't like, just don't read the godamn chat, profit.

what the frick man this is unacceptable the words you have used in this
i have censored them because i am not comfortable to even quote such word
please rethink again what you are doing, it is probably there are childrean that have read your mean comment
maybe aloha will ban you for this behaviour, be careful please and dont curse again because that will make me sad
what the frick
frick
(http://i.imgur.com/TI1pb2D.jpg)
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 16, 2017, 02:14:42 PM HST
haha quick brown fox that is a funny meme, or as some kids would call it a "dank meme"
but anyway to those kids i want to apologize because the word i used can be offensive to some people, like maybe the christians that you mention in that meme, i let my anger get the best of me and i said a bad word so i am sorry guys i will try to not let this happen again because i am the one who originally said that we should not be cursing so i should not curse as well
sorry for being a bad example but maybe we can learn from this together and be careful of what words we say
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Orkmat on August 16, 2017, 04:24:58 PM HST
This is fucking bullshit, i don't care for those giant useless cloat suckers spazz monkeys cousin fuckers, they are all a failed abortion whose birth certificate is an apology from the condom factory. Fucking dumbasses ruining the gamestreaks with votekicks just cause "words hurts".
Wow, fuck 'em, if they don't like, just don't read the godamn chat, profit.

what the frick man this is unacceptable the words you have used in this
i have censored them because i am not comfortable to even quote such word
please rethink again what you are doing, it is probably there are childrean that have read your mean comment
maybe aloha will ban you for this behaviour, be careful please and dont curse again because that will make me sad
what the frick
frick
(http://i.imgur.com/TI1pb2D.jpg)

i don't give a godamn fuck
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: RobertoMex on August 16, 2017, 04:54:09 PM HST
Orkshit being br
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 16, 2017, 05:06:20 PM HST
Orkshit being br

i dont understand roberto, are you suggesting that orkmats behaviour is normal for a brazilian but not for other ethinicity? this sounds like a racist thing to say, i hope this is not what you mean because racism is very mean and worse even than cursing, which you also did in your comment, maybe if you apologize i can forgive you for this
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: RobertoMex on August 16, 2017, 05:28:47 PM HST
Orkmat is my fren , pls  we both joke about our country
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Orkmat on August 16, 2017, 07:26:54 PM HST
lmao that can't be even true
(http://i.imgur.com/CzVdZ7n.jpg)
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: TheRealStrikerJannersYT on August 16, 2017, 11:23:37 PM HST
I don't even think profanity is cool. I also joke about my country because it makes alot of bad shit, Like Genesis on FoxFilipino. Why the fuck were we chosen to safe the world from a bunch of asteroids?
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: ScrapHeap on August 17, 2017, 02:56:58 AM HST
Personally, I would not mind if profane comments were automuted.
Yes- freedom of speech etc - but I think that having a bunch of adolecents throwing around words that are intended to hurt others really detracts from game quality.

An auto-mute combined with a list of words would be easy to set up and relatively easy to avoid (like pr0n), but at least some noobs would be filtered away (person writing automuted comments must not know that the comment was automuted).

Even my own occacional cursing could do with a -bleep-.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: israelleelll on August 17, 2017, 06:11:03 AM HST
The only thing we would consider automuting for would be racism. Even then, I dont like the idea. You're acting like you're helpless when someone starts abusing the chat. Contact an admin, votekick the person, or just ignore them. If you can't censor a playground you'll never be able to censor a game chat. It doesn't matter how many filters we add someone will always find a way through. 

If one of those players that is abusing the chat is trusted then contact an admin and we'll look in to it. We keep logs of everything said in game. They very well could lose their votekick protection If they are abusing their trusted status.

Simply put, we don't want to micromanage everybodys attitude and chat habits. We are not your parents. Really what you're asking is for everybody to be punished for the actions of a few immature players. That's not going to happen.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: ScrapHeap on August 17, 2017, 07:20:40 AM HST
I agree with your sentiment.
I was considering a very limited list containing mainly a commonly used word for people with highly pigmented skin, and a too much used word denoting people of judaistic faith.. (though the latter might swallow general discussions as well).
Votekicks do not work on these guys (they hardly work on cheaters). Messages to Admin only work sometimes. Seeing the explicit replies the OP got, I felt that some support was in place.

I do not mind trash talk in general. Some of it can be quite fun. However I think that the racial / religious items above can be enough to bully these groups of people away from playing, and that is NOT the game experience I wish to be a part of.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: israelleelll on August 17, 2017, 08:02:31 AM HST
The biggest problem we have with the vk system is people abusing it. A legitimate player is just as likely to be votekicked as a hacker. Most people only care that the kill feed is full of a name and the votekick's reason is "hacker". There isnt a lot we can do about that. Even still, ill talk to the staff about lowering vk requirments a bit. It seems like every legit vk is almost always 3 or 4 votes short. The result will probably be more trusted apps but thats not a bad thing. Itll give incentive for players to earn trusted in place of being immature.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: ScrapHeap on August 17, 2017, 09:38:06 AM HST
As mentioned before; Maybe scale votes by trusted players / allowing them to vote /n

Other item is to add votebuild, where one can only votebuild team-mates and where the vote only counts the votes by the guys the same team as the votee.

The latter item is much less controversial, because it will be hard to abuse, and because it does not result in a kick, leaving the player to continue playing as a shooter rather than a builder / griefer. I do not understand why this has not been attempted yet.

Going from there.. a votemute could be a fun idea to toss around :).
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Kuunikal on August 17, 2017, 10:47:07 AM HST
While we're at it...

There can be a /votesmg for someone to not be able to use the SMG.
There can be a /votekill for someone to not be able to kill anyone.
There can be a /votevote for someone to not be able to vote.

/s

In my opinion, less is more for these situations. If you don't want someone to be griefing, talking, etc, just initiate a votekick. No need for other types of votes.

We've been discussing as staff to tweak votekicks to make them more reliable for players. Hopefully, if the changes are made, we should see more legitimate votekicks go through.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: geistig on August 17, 2017, 11:29:55 AM HST
we're still waiting for the very needed changes in trusted system: trusted+, trusted-, trusted_mute, trusted_togglebuild, trusted_kill, trusted_kick, trusted_fog_colour_change, trusted_disco, trusted_advance, trusted_cancel, trusted_from, trusted_goto, trusted_inv, trusted_ban_the_actual_admin, trusted_ip, trusted_kickafk, trusted_switch, trusted_teleport, trusted_trust, trusted_aloha_admins_are_gay, trusted_nukeserver, etc. You get the idea.

I think there’s a resurgence of anti-multi-trusted-system because at this point in time aloha has not yet learned how to be multi trusted, and I think we’re gonna be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. aloha is not going to be a monolithic community “hurr durr im an admin and know better” that it once was in the last few years. Super smart players with great ideas are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for aloha to make. It is now going into a multi-trusted system mode, and super smart players with great ideas will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, aloha will not survive.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: ScrapHeap on August 17, 2017, 11:56:20 AM HST
VoteMute was a joke..

A VoteBuild that works like ToggleBuild WOULD make sense.
While crap-taliking CAN be ignored, a player that griefs tower or tent in Babel can destroy multiple rounds of gameplay. (And this DOES happen, often without an admin around to sort the issue)
And way too often, the opposing team could not care to votekick the griefer, either because they do not see the problen (can not verify it), or because they get the advantage from it.

The admins are reluctant to tweak the votekick - which I can understand, A votebuild, howeever,  would allow the griefing issue to be handled more easily, and the two commenterss above attempt to kill the idea by ridicule, rather than by actual argumentation. Give me good arguments against it, and I will consider my point of view.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Scipio on August 17, 2017, 12:23:11 PM HST
Can a Bk please rename this seeing as it sounds like an official announcement, but it isn't.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 17, 2017, 12:33:28 PM HST
Can a Bk please rename this seeing as it sounds like an official announcement, but it isn't.

i disagree with this idea scipio, hopefully you do not take offense
maybe this is not official announcement from the aloha admin, but it is important announcement about important aloha changes that maybe should be made so the title is ok in my opinion, BK will disagree with me and change title and i cannot argue with this because i am not admin but i guess we will see this
thanks
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: atrain1298 on August 17, 2017, 12:35:45 PM HST
Can a Bk please rename this seeing as it sounds like an official announcement, but it isn't.
It doesn't have capitalization, therefore it does not look like an official announcement.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Kuunikal on August 17, 2017, 12:56:44 PM HST
-snip-
It doesn't have capitalization, therefore it does not look like an official announcement.

If you have eyes, you'll realize that there are many things on aloha that are official and lack capitalization.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: ZeroFuggzGiven on August 17, 2017, 04:47:08 PM HST
we're still waiting for the very needed changes in trusted system: trusted+, trusted-, trusted_mute, trusted_togglebuild, trusted_kill, trusted_kick, trusted_fog_colour_change, trusted_disco, trusted_advance, trusted_cancel, trusted_from, trusted_goto, trusted_inv, trusted_ban_the_actual_admin, trusted_ip, trusted_kickafk, trusted_switch, trusted_teleport, trusted_trust, trusted_aloha_admins_are_gay, trusted_nukeserver, etc. You get the idea.

I think there’s a resurgence of anti-multi-trusted-system because at this point in time aloha has not yet learned how to be multi trusted, and I think we’re gonna be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. aloha is not going to be a monolithic community “hurr durr im an admin and know better” that it once was in the last few years. Super smart players with great ideas are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for aloha to make. It is now going into a multi-trusted system mode, and super smart players with great ideas will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, aloha will not survive.

Bravo.  And the sad thing is most people don't get the joke.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: KungFuChicken on August 18, 2017, 09:56:43 AM HST
I couldn't care less if someone swears or says something racist, sexist or homophobic. Whatever 'ist or 'phobic. Even rape, child porn, polygamy, Islam... I couldn't care less.

If you don't like what someone is saying, you should be able to use /mute for yourself. But you do not get to decide what other people's likes or dislikes are. You can only speak for yourself, not for other people. So fuck off with this swearing ban. 
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: atrain1298 on August 18, 2017, 04:26:49 PM HST
-snip-
It doesn't have capitalization, therefore it does not look like an official announcement.

If you have eyes, you'll realize that there are many things on aloha that are official and lack capitalization.
Capitalization is key! We must have it!
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: KungFuChicken on August 20, 2017, 11:52:49 AM HST
The only thing we would consider automuting for would be racism.

smh. Next you'll be telling us we can't hail Hitler.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 20, 2017, 01:19:54 PM HST
The only thing we would consider automuting for would be racism.

smh. Next you'll be telling us we can't hail Hitler.

this is true what you say, please no hailing hitler in the server this is extreme offensive, maybe this is even illegal but i am not sure of this but it is still not good idea to hail hitler ever, maybe as a joke but than you must make sure everyone knows this is joke, hitler was not a good guy and it is not ok to be in support him
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: israelleelll on August 20, 2017, 08:42:21 PM HST
I dont care if you love hitler and hate jews. I really dont. Just dont spam "nigger" or " kike" in game and you wont be muted. If thats too much to handle then consider not being a shit human. Ill let most anything slide but there is a line that can be crossed. Most of the time that line is someone spamming something racist. I dont like being heavy handed with the mutes.

Every staff memeber has a different tolerance level to racism. Where I might let it slide another might mute you. Either way dont expect to ever advance in rank if you think racism is being edgy. It shows alot about your maturity and we wont give trusted to a troll. I like free speech and I get the "fuck you ill say what I want" side of it but this place doesnt have a bill of rights. Welcome to the internet.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: ScrapHeap on August 20, 2017, 11:43:50 PM HST
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech_2x.png)
(in case you have been living under a rock; this is xkcd.com (http://xkcd.com))
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 21, 2017, 06:32:41 AM HST
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech_2x.png)
(in case you have been living under a rock; this is xkcd.com (http://xkcd.com))

this is nice comic scrapheap thanks for sharing this but it is pretty ugly to be honest with the stick figures i canot do much beter myself but this comic would be better without stick figures and maybe better drawing
it has excellent massage though so thank you ffor sharing this, free speech does not mean your words are not mean to the children and other people who read them so evern if it is legal maybe it should not be legal sometimes but i guess this is up to the goverment to decide so we will see this
thanks
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: KungFuChicken on August 21, 2017, 10:05:43 AM HST
it has excellent massage though so thank you ffor sharing this, free speech does not mean your words are not mean to the children and other people who read them so evern if it is legal maybe it should not be legal sometimes but i guess this is up to the goverment to decide so we will see this
thanks

Lmao. That's not the point of the message. The point is this;

Everyone has a right to say what they want.

Everyone has a right to listen to what they want.

You can choose not to listen to someone, but it is not in your position to forcefully silence them. Furthermore this forum (internet, your computer etc.) is a privilege. Not a right. Heck, the owner(s) could decide to ban you for being Indian if they really wanted to; and they wouldn't be going against any of your "rights" - because as I've said, it's a privilege that you are on here. Just like everyone else.   

Just dont spam "nigger" or " kike" in game and you wont be muted. If thats too much to handle then consider not being a shit human. Ill let most anything slide but there is a line that can be crossed. Most of the time that line is someone spamming something racist. I dont like being heavy handed with the mutes.

Every staff memeber has a different tolerance level to racism. Where I might let it slide another might mute you. Either way dont expect to ever advance in rank if you think racism is being edgy. It shows alot about your maturity and we wont give trusted to a troll.

No, the line is someone spamming, fullstop. Not merely saying something racist. You've acknowledged this already(consciously or not) by referring to spamming each time you've mentioned racism there. Because as a Moderator it is your job to stop spamming when you see it, regardless of the content.

And if you are referring to me about not expecting to advance in rank; then I don't know who you speak for (as you're a Moderator). Especially with that snapshot judge of maturity. But if I was a troll, I'd call you trollophobic for suggesting trolls can't become staff members.

You're likely right nonetheless. Though I am not interested in 'climbing the ladder' as it were; I have my place on the UK servers and the ~150ms delay on US servers make streaks of headshots all the more difficult. Just a shame aloha doesn't have any populated European servers.

Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 21, 2017, 10:32:41 AM HST
it has excellent massage though so thank you ffor sharing this, free speech does not mean your words are not mean to the children and other people who read them so evern if it is legal maybe it should not be legal sometimes but i guess this is up to the goverment to decide so we will see this
thanks

Lmao. That's not the point of the message. The point is this;

Everyone has a right to say what they want.

Everyone has a right to listen to what they want.

You can choose not to listen to someone, but it is not in your position to forcefully silence them. Furthermore this forum (internet, your computer etc.) is a privilege. Not a right. Heck, the owner(s) could decide to ban you for being Indian if they really wanted to; and they wouldn't be going against any of your "rights" - because as I've said, it's a privilege that you are on here. Just like everyone else.   

Just dont spam "nigger" or " kike" in game and you wont be muted. If thats too much to handle then consider not being a shit human. Ill let most anything slide but there is a line that can be crossed. Most of the time that line is someone spamming something racist. I dont like being heavy handed with the mutes.

Every staff memeber has a different tolerance level to racism. Where I might let it slide another might mute you. Either way dont expect to ever advance in rank if you think racism is being edgy. It shows alot about your maturity and we wont give trusted to a troll.

No, the line is someone spamming, fullstop. Not merely saying something racist. You've acknowledged this already(consciously or not) by referring to spamming each time you've mentioned racism there. Because as a Moderator it is your job to stop spamming when you see it, regardless of the content.

And if you are referring to me about not expecting to advance in rank; then I don't know who you speak for (as you're a Moderator). Especially with that snapshot judge of maturity. But if I was a troll, I'd call you trollophobic for suggesting trolls can't become staff members.

You're likely right nonetheless. Though I am not interested in 'climbing the ladder' as it were; I have my place on the UK servers and the ~150ms delay on US servers make streaks of headshots all the more difficult. Just a shame aloha doesn't have any populated European servers.

hello kungfuchiken, thanks for your response but i am disagree with some the things you say, you say in your text "Everyone has a right to listen to what they want." but sometimes this is not true, i ask you this what if someone come to you and yell in your ear, even if you close your ear you will still hear this unless you are deaf, and now what if this person that is yelling in youre ear is yelling bad word about your race, this is bad thing to happen, maybe like it is said this is legal but this is not good
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: atrain1298 on August 21, 2017, 05:52:05 PM HST
hello everyone
we have big problem on aloha, this is people who think it is ok to curse all the time
there are many children who play on aloha, also many religious. it is not ok to swear, this people do not like it
i suggest a new script were any offensive words automute you, such as "fuck", "shit", "nigger", "spic", "ass", many more
guys please this is big problem many players think it is cool to curse but it is not cool it is mean and unfriendly
thanks for reading guys hopefully we can make aloha a better place
You say this, but your desc below your posts has swears in it.
Is this not counterproductive considering you're campaigning to censor swears?
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: A White Guy on August 21, 2017, 07:42:37 PM HST
dont listen to them smiley-face-emoji-name guy
be who u want to be
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Danat on August 21, 2017, 09:29:32 PM HST
Here are my thoughts on this:

this "freedom of speech" is not: you can say whatever you want.
its about being free to say whats on your mind,
however, that only extends to things about yourself and your perspective of things.
so no, you cant say whatever insults comes into head, with the "freedom of speech" excuse, there is something called respect.
just like one shouldnt say swear/bad words around kids,
one should not say bad things about others on public chats.
cause no, no one can choose what they hear, however hearing and listening are not the same.
that said, one can choose what they listen to.

So maybe adding a temporally mute option for loud and aggressive players could help solve this.
cause, as much as I would not listen to whatever nonsense these "aggressive" players might say,
I would rather not have to hear it at all in the first place.

That being said, hope there is some understanding that can come from my post about this subject.
Regards,
Danat
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Insanity-Wolf on August 22, 2017, 02:29:00 AM HST
I think we've all failed to notice the obvious contradiction to this mans crusade for 3 y/o friendly servers.

any offensive words automute you, such as "fuck", "shit", "nigger", "spic", "ass"
"you ever take a shit so big it felt gay" -☺ 2017

Sieg heil, shalom.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: TheRealStrikerJannersYT on August 22, 2017, 02:50:10 AM HST
Here are my thoughts on this:

this "freedom of speech" is not: you can say whatever you want.
its about being free to say whats on your mind,
however, that only extends to things about yourself and your perspective of things.
so no, you cant say whatever insults comes into head, with the "freedom of speech" excuse, there is something called respect.
just like one shouldnt say swear/bad words around kids,
one should not say bad things about others on public chats.
cause no, no one can choose what they hear, however hearing and listening are not the same.
that said, one can choose what they listen to.

So maybe adding a temporally mute option for loud and aggressive players could help solve this.
cause, as much as I would not listen to whatever nonsense these "aggressive" players might say,
I would rather not have to hear it at all in the first place.

That being said, hope there is some understanding that can come from my post about this subject.
Regards,
Danat

I don't know what's better, temporarily muting aggressive players that apparently rage over hacks by being profane/being racist or offensive because they probably hate jews, they think 9/11 was awesome or they wanna shoot up a school, or just shit talk you over by typing it directly in chat.

Or temporarily muting players that randomly say something like "fuck" , "shit" or "no soup" like pretty much most of us including me because it is profane and the kids today probably think it's offensive. I don't really find it offensive but i liked it back then when the other kids were very sensitive to profanity back then. And now you find an Indonesian pre-teen playing OpenSpades and is using english profanity in his video. So it's mostly useless because kids think it's really cool to use profane words and they probably won't stop.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Insanity-Wolf on August 22, 2017, 05:18:26 AM HST
I see Atrain beat me to the point about his signature. my bad
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 22, 2017, 05:21:36 AM HST
hello everyone
we have big problem on aloha, this is people who think it is ok to curse all the time
there are many children who play on aloha, also many religious. it is not ok to swear, this people do not like it
i suggest a new script were any offensive words automute you, such as "fuck", "shit", "nigger", "spic", "ass", many more
guys please this is big problem many players think it is cool to curse but it is not cool it is mean and unfriendly
thanks for reading guys hopefully we can make aloha a better place
You say this, but your desc below your posts has swears in it.
Is this not counterproductive considering you're campaigning to censor swears?

hello mr atrain, i am aware of this signature you say, my brother came to my computer and he put this on while i was making a grilled cheese sandwich, i think he did this as a prank but to be honest it is very mean and now he will not tell me how to change this and this is very annoying because everytime i post something there is a curse word under it, maybe if an admin can remove it for me or show me how because i do not like this signature i have
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 22, 2017, 05:23:49 AM HST
dont listen to them smiley-face-emoji-name guy
be who u want to be

thank you for your support white guy, i will be who i want to be but sometimes it is important to listen to other because they may have good ideas or they have a problem that they needs to be addressed and it is important to listen to help them, someimtes they make me angry but more important is we need make aloha a better place
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: KungFuChicken on August 22, 2017, 06:17:26 AM HST
Stop referring to Freedom of Speech - As I've already explained it doesn't apply here. Or anywhere on the internet. (Perhaps only if the government restricts your internet access directly because of your views). It was ScrapHead who unnecessarily brought it up.

Now ☺, let's play a game. Let's pretend I say this to you in-game: 'You little Indian cunt with two fingers up your bum and curry up your nose'.
Now you've got 3 choices here;

A) Take Offense
B) Ignore Me
C) Leave The Game

(Note: If you say 'get an admin' you have effectively chosen A)

By choosing A you've already lost. Because choosing A (To take offense) means you thought about B (Ignoring me) but still chose to take offense. Which means you have the ability to ignore any forms of criticism you encounter, but choose not to. And this is exactly what I mean when I previously said you have the right to listen to what you want - because you heard what I said of course, but then decided to listen to it - as Danat pointed out.
I know ignoring people can be hard, and of course targeted harassment should be warned/muted (which is what you described). But it's part of growing up and learning to deal with things you don't like on the internet. 

I remember there being an /ignore <username or ID> command in a now-closed UK hallway server, meaning you would not see any more messages from that user for a period of time. I think this is the simple solution if we keep getting whiny cunts who need paracetamol after seeing something they don't like. Should I suggest this in a fresh thread?   
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 22, 2017, 07:15:20 AM HST
Stop referring to Freedom of Speech - As I've already explained it doesn't apply here. Or anywhere on the internet. (Perhaps only if the government restricts your internet access directly because of your views). It was ScrapHead who unnecessarily brought it up.

Now ☺, let's play a game. Let's pretend I say this to you in-game: 'You little Indian cunt with two fingers up your bum and curry up your nose'.
Now you've got 3 choices here;

A) Take Offense
B) Ignore Me
C) Leave The Game

(Note: If you say 'get an admin' you have effectively chosen A)

By choosing A you've already lost. Because choosing A (To take offense) means you thought about B (Ignoring me) but still chose to take offense. Which means you have the ability to ignore any forms of criticism you encounter, but choose not to. And this is exactly what I mean when I previously said you have the right to listen to what you want - because you heard what I said of course, but then decided to listen to it - as Danat pointed out.
I know ignoring people can be hard, and of course targeted harassment should be warned/muted (which is what you described). But it's part of growing up and learning to deal with things you don't like on the internet. 

I remember there being an /ignore <username or ID> command in a now-closed UK hallway server, meaning you would not see any more messages from that user for a period of time. I think this is the simple solution if we keep getting whiny cunts who need paracetamol after seeing something they don't like. Should I suggest this in a fresh thread?

hello kungfuchicken,
thanks for your response this game is a creative idea but it is a stupid game, i would rather play better game like ace of spades
the words that you theoretically say to me they are mean but i am not choose A) because i am not indian and so this does not offend me personally but instead i choose D) where i am not offended but i tell you that this words are mean to many people especially indians and i tell you to not say this because it can hurt feelings, maybe if you keep saying words like this i would initiate a votekick or even tell admin if other players agree that this is mean words
i like this idea of /ignore command, it is great but i am not sure this is possible if i am not mistaken there were attempts at similar thing but they did not work, but if you seen this work in another server maybe it is possible, i guess this is up to the admins to figure out
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Insanity-Wolf on August 22, 2017, 07:30:07 AM HST
The real world doesn't care about your feelings, buck up.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: StartingMSDOS on August 22, 2017, 02:32:51 PM HST
You do all realize he is troll?
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 22, 2017, 02:49:25 PM HST
You do all realize he is troll?

sorry but i think you are mistaken, kungfuchicken is not a troll he has been a member on aloha since 2015, i dont see why you think he is trolling he is just giving his opinons, maybe he is a bit harsh sometimes but he is serious as far as i know and he has good points
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: StartingMSDOS on August 22, 2017, 02:50:44 PM HST
You do all realize he is troll?

sorry but i think you are mistaken, kungfuchicken is not a troll he has been a member on aloha since 2015, i dont see why you think he is trolling he is just giving his opinons, maybe he is a bit harsh sometimes but he is serious as far as i know and he has good points
YOU are the troll.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Torch on August 22, 2017, 11:21:07 PM HST
You do all realize he is troll?

sorry but i think you are mistaken, kungfuchicken is not a troll he has been a member on aloha since 2015, i dont see why you think he is trolling he is just giving his opinons, maybe he is a bit harsh sometimes but he is serious as far as i know and he has good points
YOU are the troll.

Whoah there sharp shooter, throw a lasso round that steer and reel it in. My boy ☺ just tryin to have an intellectual sorts with us buckos and rootin tootin cowboys round these parts. No need to come in winchester blazin' with all this tumbleweed talk of trolls. Please take your WOW roleplay to some other ghost town pardna.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: ZeroFuggzGiven on August 26, 2017, 12:39:07 PM HST
OP is a fucking faggot.

 :D
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: on August 27, 2017, 12:10:44 PM HST
OP is a fucking faggot.

 :D

hello zerofuggsgiven,
know you see, this is exactly your response that i think is the problem in aloha, why do you feel this need to call me a thing like this, maybe it is true that i am gay but i am not but i even if i am i do not see how this is relevant to the topic of this discussion, also i do not see reason why you feel that it was necesary to curse in this comment, maybe i am not a religious or a child but some poeple have a problem when they see a thing like this, also i feel that from the way you say this that you think it is bad to be gay, this is a problem that you think this way because there are many gays in the world and only because they are gay does not mean they are worse then other people like me and you and so it is mean to them to read a comment like this, hopefully there arent any gays that read this comment but if they are they will probably think that this is very rude, maybe you should apologise for this, not to me but to the other people but also to me because this comment is also rude to me,
thanks
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: ZeroFuggzGiven on August 30, 2017, 12:15:14 PM HST
OP is a fucking faggot.

 :D

hello zerofuggsgiven,
know you see, this is exactly your response that i think is the problem in aloha, why do you feel this need to call me a thing like this, maybe it is true that i am gay but i am not but i even if i am i do not see how this is relevant to the topic of this discussion, also i do not see reason why you feel that it was necesary to curse in this comment, maybe i am not a religious or a child but some poeple have a problem when they see a thing like this, also i feel that from the way you say this that you think it is bad to be gay, this is a problem that you think this way because there are many gays in the world and only because they are gay does not mean they are worse then other people like me and you and so it is mean to them to read a comment like this, hopefully there arent any gays that read this comment but if they are they will probably think that this is very rude, maybe you should apologise for this, not to me but to the other people but also to me because this comment is also rude to me,
thanks

K. Good to know. You're still a fag.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: badass on September 10, 2017, 04:08:53 PM HST
sry for necro post im just a stupid knee grow

I think votekick quotas should be counted per team kinda like in cs:go
The team with the cheater will obviously not vote to kick him because the he gives them a nice advantage
Same applies to griefers

I also don't agree with word filters / profanity mutes
alot of people say that "bad wordz" hurt children but they really don't
children are the ones that use them most often because they wanna be 3DGY (just like me lol)
the people that get offended are almost always not children and they say that it's a threat to children just to hide their own sensitivity
i dunno if there is a /muteonlyformyself command on aloha but if there is just use it insead of complaining and votekicking
if only one person is offended why mute for everyone?

i think the only good reasons to mute are
doxing
spam (it will auto mute you anyways)
posting links to illegal shit like cp, drugs
there is also a bug where you can put some \n's in your name and take up several lines of the chat/killfeed

_----highly offensive (lol)----_
Quote
sicker than your average Nick Gur killer
twist Nick Gurs heads off
Nick Gurs fkn stink Nick Gurs and gayers
-written by Moonman the great rapper and notorious racist

>op is a faggot
op is a faggot
>op is a faggot
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Pink Floyd on September 10, 2017, 05:38:14 PM HST
Just read through this thread a bit, thought I'd put in my two cents. A lot of kids use the internet in general and we should not censor the internet. When I'm in public I don't look around me to make sure there's no children before cussing casually in my conversation. But I'm also not going to go to the park where kids hang out and start screaming vulgarities. What I'm getting at with this is that there's a time and a place. Cussing in game shouldn't be a big deal unless it's excessive, or blatant racism. The internet is a free place and if you have such a passion against cuss words you should not be using it.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: ScrapHeap on September 12, 2017, 12:17:19 AM HST
I do not know who brought "save the children" into this discussion.
The biggest users of profanity, as well as racial, religious and sexual slander are kids and juveniles.
Grownups tend to grow out of the need to "prove themselves" by these means.
On Aloha's servers, a quite incredible span of age groups are gaming on a more or less level playing field.
This means that everybody has to "listen" to the 12 year old who thinks that calling everyone "jew-nigger-faggots" is the cat's meow.

Having a wish to not have the game experience disturbed by this shit is not a sign of sensorship, limitations to the freedom of speech, lack of "growing up" or anything else. It is simply a wish for a more comfortable game experience.  ..and again.. I am not complaining about some cursing..  It is the racism, the anti-semitism and the anti-lgbtwhatever that I personally would not mind having automuted.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: TheRealStrikerJannersYT on September 12, 2017, 03:45:03 AM HST
You see a brazilian kid use english profanity while playing OpenSpades in software mode. He has an intro that was made by somebody or some website on Google and put shit music. He puts MLG and Xxx in his name. Having a shit ratio and probsbly has an edgy playername on the server. He rages, downloads hacks, record it, upload it, gets banned, lie on appeal, tells the truth because he wants to be famous and record YouTube videos, doesn't get famous, doesn't say he got banned after video ends, subscriber finds out and calls him a noob without knowing the meaning of noob, doesn't record, changes account, do other weird shit.


This is what we mostly see in the servers.
Some 12 year olds who almost always come up with the same reason in appeal
Hoorays, talk lots of shit, gets muted, evades mute, gets banned again not having a high chance of getting unbanned, denied, changes ip then gets banned again, does the same shit.

Says 9/11 is cool, listens to new music and has a name based on a meme on the internet, supports KKK and loves Hitler, probably has a vore fetish and other shit.

Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: RobertoMex on May 08, 2019, 02:32:10 PM HST
kys
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Kikk{SARs} on May 15, 2019, 05:04:05 AM HST
I don't like the idea of censoring but there are several players that constantly try to disrupt the game.  Mostly I ignore it but I rarely pay attention to chat anyway.  Why not just permaban the ones that constantly disrupt the servers?
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: MiyukiTokubetsu on May 15, 2019, 11:48:41 PM HST
I don't like the idea of censoring but there are several players that constantly try to disrupt the game.  Mostly I ignore it but I rarely pay attention to chat anyway.  Why not just permaban the ones that constantly disrupt the servers?

I think a permaban is a little too harsh for playing who simply type racial slurs in-game, a long auto-mute would be great idea, like that Ben Cousins kid received.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Kikk{SARs} on May 16, 2019, 08:44:09 AM HST
I think permaban for those that constantly abuse the system is absolutely justified.  However, by constantly I mean those that have been given 10+ chances already and still abuse the system knowing they will be allowed back because the admins are pretty darn generous.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Ben Cousins on September 10, 2019, 10:39:33 PM HST
I never deserved a long auto-mute. That was a bullshit punishment.
Title: Re: important aloha changes
Post by: Ben Cousins on September 10, 2019, 10:44:28 PM HST
As for your bullshit proposal to this game, fuck your ole. If a coupla words hurt your feelings then you should see a therapist so they can work on your mental health ya melt.